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Kingston Newsletter – November 2017


No.136           November 2017

Editor: Brenda Horwill          Phone: 01932 784866          E-mail: This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.



Len Hands Memorial Gate Dedication

The dedication of the Memorial Gate to Len hands (Chairman of Kingston Ramblers between1999 & 2005) will be held on the 7 February 2018.  Detail of associated walk are in the Programme, details of the dedication ceremony and a lunch will be advised later.



Kingston Ramblers Christmas Lunch
A Christmas Lunch has been organised for Friday 8 December 13:30 at Casa Mia Hampton Court, an Italian restaurant at 55-57 Bridge Road Hampton Court Village (opposite Hampton Court station).  The Christmas lunch menu for the restaurant is available on the web at at £18.95, drinks extra.  Pay for drinks as ordered, pay for the meal at the end.  Those who wish to attend must notify Maureen Munday as soon as possible and by 20 November at the latest.



Committee Members

Thanks go to Moira Shearer, who has stepped down from the committee after compiling many programmes.  We are now looking for a volunteer to take her place.  To repeat the request made in the June newsletter: we urgently need one and preferably two committee members to help with programme compiling.  A competence with Excel, email and organisational ability are the prime skills required.  Provided we obtain enough volunteers they would only have to work on one programme each year.  We also need someone to assist with publicity. The work is not onerous.  Apart from the weeks when a programme is being finalised it is only a few hours a month.



John Hauxwell Kissing Gate

The Dedication Ceremony of the John Hauxwell Memorial Kissing Gate took place on Thursday 21 September 2017 in the presence of Barbara Hauxwell (his widow), their two sons and grandson.  The new gate, installed by the Guildford Gate Team is situated at grid reference TQ083571 off Ockham Lane between Ockham and Martyr’s Green.  David Cooper led 20 ramblers from Horsley Station to the Kissing Gate where they met 15 people, (including the Hauxwell family) who had walked from the Black Swan pub at Martyr’s Green.  Roger Seear said a few words and Barbara cut the ribbon.  Everyone then walked to the Black Swan for a most enjoyable lunch.



Kingston Annual General Meeting

Date: 7:30pm on Tuesday 14 November 2017

Venue: Surbiton Library Hall, Ewell Road, Surbiton KT6 6AG

On the upper floor (lift available) of building next to the main Surbiton Library

Bus routes: 281, 406, 418 & K2 at the Surbiton Telephone Exchange Bus Stop

Or less than a 10-minute walk from Surbiton Station

There is car parking behind the library ~ access via Berrylands Road, along a narrow road just a short distance from its junction with Ewell Road.  It is NOT signposted.  The first small car park is private; continue on to the Library car park.  After the AGM, there will be mince pies and a drink.  We look forward to seeing you all!



Surrey Area Annual General Meeting is on Saturday 10 February 2018 at Bletchingley Village Hall; two walks (linear from Redhill station and a Village Hall circular) plus a light lunch.  Possible lifts back to Redhill station after AGM.  More details on the website nearer the time.


Tolworth Area Plan

The draft Tolworth Area Plan was published on 9 October 2017.  The consultation continues until 5 November.  While much of the public concern centres around proposed developments in the Tolworth Interchange area, the plan covers a large area of Metropolitan Open Land to the south of the A3 including Tolworth Court Farm, King George’s Fields, the Hogsmill Nature Reserve, and many sports fields.

Go to: where you can download the PDFs of the plan (188 pages) and the summary (18 pages).  As well as making your own comments, if you have any concerns that you think the Ramblers should pursue, please contact Brenda Horwill.



Disruption to Walks by Rail Maintenance Work and Strikes.

We suggest that 2 WEEKS before a walk, leaders check transport web sites for potential travel disruption notified for the day of the walk.  Please notify changes to a walk arrangements to Brenda Howill (email:This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. tel: 01932 784866) or Paul Draper (email:This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.  tel: 07990 973514).  That way we can get web and email notifications out to members and associates.  Walkers should check our web site a few days before each walk to see if there have been any changes.



Group Holiday

Would anyone be interested in a Kingston Group holiday in late May 2018?   Please contact Brenda for more details This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.



Kingston Group Photos

Have you any good photos (for publicity) taken on Kingston rambles – preferably of the walkers?  Please email them to Brenda This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.   Thanks for your help.  


Changes to Ordnance Survey (OS) map numbering

The Ordnance Survey have rebadged more maps as Outdoor Leisure maps.  These are towards and along the South Coast.  If you see an unfamiliar map number in a Kingston walks programme, remember you may already have the map with the other number.




Meon Valley: Portsmouth, Gosport and Fareham



Chichester: South Harting, Selsey, South Downs Way



Arundel & Pulborough: Worthing & Bognor Regis



Brighton & Hove: Lewes & Burgess Hill



Eastbourne & Beachy Head: Newhaven, Seaford, Hailsham & Heathfield



Winchester: New Alresford & East Meon



Haslemere & Petersfield: Midhurst & Selborne



Crawley & Horsham: Cranleigh & Billingshurst



By David Cooper



Hogsmill Path improvement

During the last two weeks of August, various local groups worked on a project to repair and improve the footpath that follows the Hogsmill River in Elmbridge Meadows.  The path was poor in winter months. See for pictures and details. By David Cooper


Walk Magazine and South East Walker

Many stations, some libraries and some other places have a book or magazine exchange facility.            These include Surbiton (waiting room for Platforms 3 & 4) and Kingston (waiting room for Platforms 1 & 2).  When you have finished your copies of Walk and South East Walker, consider leaving them at an exchange site.  It’s an easy way of publicising the Ramblers and, with luck, helping us recruit some new members locally. By David Cooper


Raeburn Open Space revamp

The Raeburn Open Space straddles the Tolworth Brook between Elmbridge and Raeburn Avenues in the Berrylands area.  The Tolworth Brook runs for 3.75 miles from its source is on the edge of Claygate, near the A3 Esher By-Pass, and joins the Hogsmill in Elmbridge Meadows not that far from The Berrylands Hotel public house.  Although we often walk up the Hogsmill, the Tolworth Brook has probably never been explored by the group as its course becomes culverted through residential areas.  The Raeburn Open Space is five-hectares but has degraded through neglect. Thames Water is funding a three-year project which will to create new habitats and improve access.

For some more information, see: By David Cooper


Surbiton or Boundary Zone 6?

Many members will have ‘free’ off-peak train travel in Greater London by virtue of a season ticket, 60+ London Oyster photocard, or a Freedom Pass.

For many journeys from Surbiton, there is no need to state your starting point when you buy a ticket. For Basingstoke, there is no difference in price between Surbiton and Boundary Zone 6.

In contrast, if you were going to, say, Sevenoaks, you would clearly specify Boundary Zone 6 so that you were paying only the equivalent of a return from Knockholt.

However, there are destinations that can catch you out. An August walk led by Caroline Cunliffe that finished at Gomshall is a case in point.

Boundary Zone 6 to Gomshall: £4.35p

Surbiton to Gomshall return: £6.45p

So, you’d save almost enough money to buy a cup of railway station coffee.

The Gomshall fare seems to be based on the shorter journey from Boundary Zone 6 south of Ewell West and via Dorking. Zone 6 largely follows the highly irregular Greater London boundary. However, the schematic railway maps make the actual geographical distances unclear so the likely anomalies are not obvious.

The stations between Shalford and Dorking Deepdene seem like candidates for savings. If in doubt, ask at the ticket office – and get your tickets changed if you’ve overpaid! By David Cooper



Diary Dates

Tue 14 Nov

Kingston Ramblers Annual General Meeting

Sat 23 Dec

to Sun 7 Jan 2018 – Festival of Winter Walks

Sat 6 Jan

Surrey Area Council Meeting

Sat 10 Feb

Surrey Area Annual General Meeting



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